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26 April 2006 @ 08:58 pm
modesty panels?  
I was searching the memories section and I saw something about modesty panels, which is exactly what I was looking for. BUT...
when I clicked on the link it said that the post does not exist.

So here's my question..

How do you attach a modesty panel?
Do you just sew on to one side of the corset? Do you need a way to secure the other side of the corset so it doesn't shift while the corset is being worn or will it just stay where you put it?
I am a very visual learner so if you have pictures or sketches, it would be very helpful.

One more question....

The last corset I made had a small gap that between the two parts of the busk when closed. I have seen corsets with a flap that is attached to one side of the busk but I'm not sure how to go about putting one in. Any help would be appreciated.
Suzysuzy_hendrix on April 27th, 2006 04:11 am (UTC)
I don't do attached modesty panels but I do have a little flap behind the busk. It's usually just a little interfaced (or not) peice of the fashion fabric sewn in behind the "stud" side of the busk.
Kimsooperglu on April 27th, 2006 04:14 am (UTC)
so you just sew it on then...that seems simple enough.

so long as you don't hit the busk while sewing it on ;)
Suzysuzy_hendrix on April 27th, 2006 12:57 pm (UTC)
Oh I sew it in before I insert that side of the busk. I do it when I'm connecting all the layers together before I insert and poke the holes for the busk. So, when I attach the fashion fabric, interlining, lining, and facing panel I put the flap between the two layers of fashion fabric. It might not make much sense the way I put it, I wish I had an illustration:-p
ninshuburninshubur on April 27th, 2006 07:41 am (UTC)
While I don't make corsets I do have some experience with different styles of modesty panels. What works best for me is a loose panel with light boning at the side and on the diagonals. You just slide it in before you lace the corset up.

The other style is a panel permanently attached to one side but you don't have the option of wearing the corset without the panel there and the panel ends up off center if you don't lace the corset to its intended gap at the back. It's also more prone to bunching up as only one side of the corset can slide over it. YMMV.
blackwidowphoto on April 27th, 2006 09:44 am (UTC)
I'm also very interesting in this post as a novice, keep the replies coming! :)
Save Me From My Own Hand: The Freakgudriba on April 27th, 2006 02:46 pm (UTC)
One way is to just allow an extra 1 - 1.5cm of fabric at the front of the corset, sew it down kind of like you were making a boning channel, then set the stud side of the busk in - like this:

and voila! Fiddle around with some scrap fabric and the stud side of a busk and you will see how it can work with single layer or multiple layer corsets.
Kimsooperglu on April 27th, 2006 04:58 pm (UTC)
What a brilliant idea!
That is extremely helpful and exactly what I was hoping for!

Thank you for the help!

Dravondravon on April 27th, 2006 04:37 pm (UTC)
I have one off-the-rack corset I purchased because it featured something I adored but had never seen before - a fabric flap to cover the busk closures. I'm not talking about the behind-the-busk protectors nicely illustrated above, but rather the same idea just on the other side and over the busk closures. That way, when the corset is all done up, you don't see those silver bits sticking out. Whether those silver bits being visible are desirable or not is, of course, a personal take, but I don't like how they interupt the design of the corset so I'm beginning to incorporate a front and back busk protector into my projects.

I'm just learning, so I'm taking patterns and modifying the crap out of them to see what happens when I do X. I was doing a side-lace bodice for a fellow to wear under armour and built a modesty panel into that for extra protection and because he didn't want a white gap to illustrate to fat he was gaining weight. It was a simple thing where I just sewed (hemmed to size) fabric behind where the grommets would end up being from one side to the other. Yes, it bunches up - but a quick tuck session pushes the extra material out of the way. When I do my next corset I'll be doing this. I had a corset made for me with a separate modesty panel and I HATE it! My take is that if the material is behind the lacing, I don't care if it has a little bit of bunching - it is a better sight than seeing my shirt or skin through the gap! And because it's attached on both sides I know it's not going to slide up or down at some point. My version is only 1 material layer thick, matching the outter skin of the corset, with no boning or quilting. It's meant solely to keep the gap from being as painfully jarring to the viewer as possible - but then, some woment love that look, so it's entirely personal as to what your reasons are for wanting a modesty panel and from there what works best to fit your personal requirements. That's the great thing about making corsets yourself - you can do what YOU want for the reasons YOU want. :-D

Now just to figure how the hell you wonderfully skilled people get such straight lines! I've been sewing for over 20 years and STILL can't do that! *le sigh*
MsToriJonesmstorijones on April 27th, 2006 05:27 pm (UTC)
MODESTY PANEL for behind the laces:

I create a rectangle of fabrics (same layers as the corset) I make it as long as the back of the corset and 2" WIDER than the gap. I bone this on each edge and with 2 other bones to keep the panel as stiff as my corset. I then lay this down with my laced corset and mark where the 2nd X is at the top and bottom then put a vertical strip of corset fabric there. Then the corset is laced with the laces passing THROUGH those strips of fabric. This will keep the panel in place when lacing the corset, the bones keep it straight. I will be putting 3 bones horizontally on the next one also.

this is one in my corset....note the corset is NOT completely laced on...this was one of the fittings I was doing for myself:

here is a "mock up" of it

You can click either one to make them a little bigger
MsToriJonesmstorijones on April 27th, 2006 05:30 pm (UTC)
for the front I do the one as seen above

I guess the one on the back is actually a lace protector
reddragonflys20 on April 27th, 2006 06:31 pm (UTC)
This is similar to how electradesigns does hers, I mean with the tabs I don't know if she bones them but hers always look good!!
Kimsooperglu on April 27th, 2006 11:28 pm (UTC)
Then the corset is laced with the laces passing THROUGH those strips of fabric.

That is so smart!

And for some reason all I get is a little red 'x' for the second picture.

The first picture is beautiful, by the way.
MsToriJonesmstorijones on April 28th, 2006 01:43 am (UTC)
hhhmmm I can see it.....
Kimsooperglu on April 28th, 2006 04:14 pm (UTC)
I can see it now. :)
reddragonflys20 on April 27th, 2006 06:34 pm (UTC)
Remember to always make your panal .5 to 1" shorter at the top and bottom of the corset. I like miss_tori_jones idea about adding the stips of fabric so that the laces can hold it in place!!!
wysperdwytch on September 22nd, 2007 10:31 am (UTC)
there was a post not to long ago about using plastic canvas inside the layers of the modesty panel and bob's your uncle..... it stays in place and eliminates the need to bone it to keep it from bunching,shifting and whatnot...thought it should be added to the memories.....;0)