wieselkind ([info]wieselkind) wrote in [info]corsetmakers,
2009-06-10 18:53:00
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1910s Corset

I'm thinking about making a 1910s style corset, but I was wondering if i should use a flexible busk or a solid one?

Should the high waist be 2-4 inches smaller than my own high waist? this seems a lot as it is on my ribs, any advice? 

Also for the underbust and hip measurements how much should I be shaving off my own? I'm guessing just an inch or two? 

When it says that 1910s coresets are underbust does that mean they should end where a bra band lies? or do they come slightly above and then the camisole provides the rest of the bust support ? (I Ihave a small underbust, but a large bust, so this would mean the different between wearing a bra or just wearing a camisole)

Sorry for so many questions, I looked though the memories and found answers to other questions, but there is so little in general about 1910s corsets that I am unable to find anymore help. 

Thanks in advance.
Tags: timeline|1900-1920 edwardian corset

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[info]textileowl

June 10 2009, 15:41:02 UTC 2 years ago

HarmonHay has been working on a 1909 gown I believe and her undergarments are very similar, I believe, to the style you are discussing. I would suggest you take a look at the information she's got on her livejournal about her corset for the Worth gown she's recreating.

I believe she cross posted it to here, February 26th of this year.

[info]wieselkind

June 10 2009, 17:42:07 UTC 2 years ago

I follow her blog already! Unfortunately the worth gown corset is the earlier S bend style, and I'm looking for info on the later more tubular style.
thanks anyway.

[info]textileowl

June 10 2009, 17:50:29 UTC 2 years ago

Ah, I had misunderstood which you were looking for, you are correct it is a bit earlier than you mentioned.

[info]type_chick

June 10 2009, 16:01:11 UTC 2 years ago

If you can get hold of Corsets and Crinolines, I think there is a pattern and instructions in there for one about the time period you're thinking.

[info]wieselkind

June 10 2009, 17:29:58 UTC 2 years ago

I've checked the Uni library and they have it, I'l go in and do some reading/photocopying in the next week or so.

[info]synj_munki

June 10 2009, 16:07:36 UTC 2 years ago

edwardian corsets:
http://www.corsetsandcrinolines.com/timelineitem.php?index=191031
http://www.corsetsandcrinolines.com/timelineitem.php?index=191030
http://www.corsetsandcrinolines.com/timelineitem.php?index=191032
http://www.corsetsandcrinolines.com/timelineitem.php?index=191033
http://www.corsetsandcrinolines.com/timelineitem.php?index=190058

edwardian bust bodices & brassiers:
http://www.corsetsandcrinolines.com/timelineitem.php?index=191036
http://www.corsetsandcrinolines.com/timelineitem.php?index=191038
http://www.ladywaisted.com/images/bustimpro.jpg
http://www.tudorlinks.com/treasury/articles/corsetcover7.jpg
http://prints.leics.gov.uk/image/white-cotton-bust-bodice-1910_675311.jpg?pvw=2
http://prints.leics.gov.uk/image/the-perfect-contour-bust-bodice-1902_675309.jpg?pvw=2
http://prints.leics.gov.uk/image/the-ideal-plastron-bust-improver-1905-side-view_675310.jpg?pvw=2

[info]wieselkind

June 10 2009, 17:44:55 UTC 2 years ago

ooh thanks, I'd seen the C&C corsets before, but had overlooked the bust bodies.

[info]synj_munki

June 10 2009, 18:06:56 UTC 2 years ago

no problem. I am large of bosom, myself, and know that there were people like that back then, too, and am always astonished when people try and tell me that people of large bosom didn't need or want a little something extra to keep the boobs from slipping around. even with some of the earlier ones that come up under the boobs (providing a bit of a scooped shelf to sit in) as long as i am perfectly still it's okay, but as soon as i start moving around my boobs will come out of the shelf, over the shelf, and start creeping towards my armpits. there's some ads for french bust supports that are really impressive, basically little boned corsets for each boob and lots of frills and lace (the top one here http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/AuBonMarcheCorsetsPage5.gif 1902, a little earlier than 1910 and still with the s-bend, but the idea would still be around)

google patent-search is also pretty neat, check these out:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=ZSJ-AAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=bust+support&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1
http://www.google.com/patents?id=SidCAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=bust+support&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1
http://www.google.com/patents?id=HTlLAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=bust+support&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1
http://www.google.com/patents?id=YkpsAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=bust+support&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1
http://www.google.com/patents?id=7wBIAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=brassiere&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1

and there's a lot more! "bust support" and "corset" and "brassiere" and then sort by date, oldest first will give you days of ideas!

[info]wieselkind

June 10 2009, 19:45:00 UTC 2 years ago

Thanks for the tip on the patents.

i like the look of this one

http://www.google.com/patents?id=jXZEAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=marie+perillat&rview=1&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1

[info]tielke

June 10 2009, 17:29:08 UTC 2 years ago

Can't really say I can answer your questions, I just know these corsets aren't mùeant to reduce that much...However, I was looking through the Au Fil Du termps patterns on ebay for an earlier pattern for myself, but came across a 1913 pattern, maybe it's usefull, it also has a picture which may help you see where the bust should lie:

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/MODE-ILLUSTREE-PATTERN-June-29-1913-CORSET_W0QQitemZ370123775429QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item562d189dc5&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A4%7C294%3A30

good luck with it, I love this period! Are you going to make a dress to go over it as well?

[info]wieselkind

June 10 2009, 18:07:29 UTC 2 years ago

Thanks, that picture is pretty handy, combined with the bust bodices synj_munki linked me to, it seems they sometimes had a sort of two piece ensemble.

Yes, I am doing a dress, although its more 1910s inspired than an authentic recreation. I've written about it here briarrosestitches.blogspot.com. I really like the 1910s styles but I've not found much info or general enthsiasm about them :(

[info]tielke

June 11 2009, 19:14:15 UTC 2 years ago

thanks for the link, I'll keep an eye on it!

I love the whole 1900s and early 1910s look too, but for some reason not a lot of people seem to be interested in recreating it and so it's hard finding resources and examples for it.

[info]laracorsets

June 11 2009, 01:01:57 UTC 2 years ago

The waist of a 1910s corset is on your natural waist and therefore your normal corset waist size. The corsets of the time are shorter and cut under the bust usually. See my pages here for reference:

Actual Period corsets:

http://www.laracorsets.com/Antique_corset_collection_5_Teens+WWI_corsets.htm


Period corset ads and images:

http://www.laracorsets.com/History_of_the_corset_11_1910-1920.htm


[info]wieselkind

June 11 2009, 10:58:38 UTC 2 years ago

It is? hmm, I have a low waist I think, but I wouldn't adjust the height of the waist to compensate right ?

Thanks, I'd seen the photos but not the ads.

I think next I shall look for some 1910s pin up type pictures, but I can't do that til I'm home next week.
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